June 23, 2008

Christians: "No One Path to Salvation"

At least that is what a recent survey by The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life published today in TIME had to say.

They surveyed: "35,000 American, and found that 70% of respondents agreed with the statement "Many religions can lead to eternal life." Even more remarkable was the fact that 57% of Evangelical Christians were willing to accept that theirs might not be the only path to salvation"

So much for that whole John 14:6 thing huh?

Now granted...the "Christians" that were surveyed may be so only in words - not actions, lifestyles and beliefs...so I take this article with the proverbial grain of salt. 

Posted by: Matt

June 06, 2008

Our View of God

Posted by: Matt

I was listening to a teaching by Joel Hunter this morning and I've posted below a couple of things he said that got me thinking:

If we have a High view of God then we realize that we are here for God's purpose

If we have a Low view of God then we believe that God is there for our purpose

If we have a High view of God then we ask God to let us help

If we have a Low view of God then we ask - "God, could you help me out?"

If we have a High view of God then we say - "God I know you've given me something to do & I want to know what that is."

What is your view of God?

September 18, 2007

Mark Driscoll

hahaha guys so i'm in Seattle right now for Mars Hill's worship conferance. I heard Driscoll speak last night and he talked about different sins that we fall into without knowing it and he mentioned focusing on your family. he spoke about how its a sin to "Focus on the Family" instead of God. Driscoll said, if you focus on God only then will you really focus on your family. buttt i'm pretty sure Driscoll is going to get some heat for shot he took at the "Focus on the Family" crusade. so look for that in the future or whenever it gets on youtube

June 26, 2007

i changed

I'm not sure how many people read my myspace blogs, but this is one i wrote a couple days ago:

Read Romans 3:10-11, Psalms 14:1-3, 53:1-3.

I used to think worship was when YOU find God in something. It could be through music, or art, or meeting people or (according for David Crowder) a roast beef sandwich. After hearing a sermon from Mars Hill's worship pastor, i started thinking about worship differently.

(I may not be explaining this well)

My theology is of the thought that because of our sin we cannot find God in anything. Because of our sin God is invisible. this is why we needed Jesus (see Colossians 1:15 "He is the image of the invisible God...". God must reveal himself to us, when HE desires. This is the only way we find God. I never thought that meant worship as well.

In Romans 3:10-11, Paul is quoting the old testament. Paul writes that because we are not righteous, we do not seek for God. The Greek word for seek is ekzetew (ek-zay-teh'-o)It means to crave, its not just looking or finding (its not marco : polo), its a burning desire or craving for God. and we do not have it.

We worship God through something he created. but we cant see the beauty of God in creation because we cannot see God. We don't want to, we get busy. Stuff (like our life, work, friends) get in the way. they = more important for that period of time. and anything that comes before God is a sin...Idolatry

Maybe a little later we may have the desire to seek God. But is that us...... or God? It is not us. because we do not seek God. Our sin nature is to strong. In John 12:32, "But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself". we do not FREELY choose God, because Paul said, "No one seeks God". It takes God revealing himself (like in John 12:32) to get our attention. This is how worship is, we do not freely come to church and sing, "Holy is the lord, God almighty. the earth is filled with his glory" and worship. Its when God reveals himself to you through the words when you see the glory of God and you cannot help but worship him. This also happens when you look at a rose. When you look at a rose you may only see the thorns and pedals and maybe some dirt, but when God reveals himself to you. that is when you see the glory and power of God (the creator) and you worship him because of a rose! 

It can be through a song, art, myspace profile, coffee, sandwich, church. Its when God reveals himself to us. When the son of God is lifted up that is when and only when we worship God!

My view of worship is not that we find God, it is when God finds us.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Jimmy

April 11, 2007

The Atonement of Christ

I heard John Piper's message from the Desiring God national conference last fall.  He spoke on The Supremacy of Christ and Joy in a postmodern world. One thing that I cannot get off my mind it the issue that has become debate in the last few years (which is to say that it has come back around from old theology debates).  This is the issue of the "substitutionary atonement" of Christ.  This is point number 4 made in the sermon...

"The Son of God, Jesus Christ, came into the world, lived a perfect life, died to bear the penalty for our sins, absorbed the wrath of God that hung over us, rose from the dead triumphant over death and Satan and all evil, so that all who receive Jesus as the Savior, Lord, and Treasure of their lives would be forgiven for Christ’s sake, counted righteous in Christ, and fitted to know and enjoy God forever.

Oh, how I wish that at least here, at the center of the gospel, there would be common ground among those who claim to be followers of Jesus today. But that’s not the case, and one of the reasons is that the postmodern mind, inside and outside of the church, has no place for the biblical truth of the wrath of God. And therefore, it has no place for a wrath-bearing Savior who endures God’s curse that we might go free. One of the most infamous and tragic paragraphs written by a church leader in the last several years heaps scorn on one of the most precious truths of the atonement: Christ’s bearing our guilt and God’s wrath.

The fact is that the cross isn’t a form of cosmic child abuse—a vengeful Father, punishing his Son for an offence he has not even committed. Understandably, both people inside and outside of the Church have found this twisted version of events morally dubious and a huge barrier to faith. Deeper than that, however, is that such a concept stands in total contradiction to the statement: God is love”. If the cross is a personal act of violence perpetrated by God towards humankind but borne by his Son, then it makes a mockery of Jesus’ own teaching to love your enemies and to refuse to repay evil with evil. (Steve Chalke and Alan Mann, The Lost Message of Jesus [Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2003], pp. 182-183.)

With one cynical stroke of the pen, the triumph of God’s love over God’s wrath in the death of his beloved Son is blasphemed, while other church leaders write glowing blurbs on the flaps of his book. But God is not mocked. His word stands firm and clear and merciful to those who will embrace it:

We esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. . . . It was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief.” (Isaiah 53:4-6, 10)

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree.” (Galatians 3:13)

For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh. (Romans 8:3)

Whose sin? My sin. Whose flesh? Jesus’ flesh. Whose condemnation? God’s condemnation.

In our present fallen, rebellious condition, nothing—I say it again carefully—nothing is more crucial for humanity than escaping the omnipotent wrath of God. That is not the ultimate goal of the cross. It is just infinitely necessary—and valuable beyond words.

The ultimate goal the cross—the ultimate good of the gospel is the everlasting enjoyment of God. The glorious work of Christ in bearing our sins and removing God’s wrath and providing our righteousness is aimed finally at this: “Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God” (1 Peter 3:18). Jesus died for us so that we might say with the psalmist, “I will go to the altar of God, to God my exceeding joy” (Psalm 43:4)."

What I have found in my own life is that I am questioning so many things, yet I must come back to the truth of scripture.  It is what we must do...not hijack scripture to make it say what I want, but humbly say what scripture says.